March 1, 2008
The below was submitted to PH via email. Since each fact checks out and the points are extremely relevant and important, PH is posting the article.
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Mark Driscoll keeps changing the story.
Just as a suspected adulterer lies to cover his sin to appear innocent, Mark Driscoll and the elders are changing the story as they defend their actions. Read the rest of this entry »
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Posted by prayingheart
February 28, 2008
Wow…in less than 2 minutes, this video says more about the injustices instigated by and under Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church than PH could write in 2 pages! Video: Major vs Minor Sins
The topic question can be read one of two ways: Are these guys in sin – OR – is the sin that they are in Major or Minor. PH will let you choose how to read it.
PH raises two follow-up questions, regardless of your read on the topic question.
- Are the men who participated in the firings and trial qualified to be elders? And,
- Are a) knowing and active disobedience of biblical principles, followed by b) false representations perpetrated to cover up the disobedience MAJOR or MINOR sins, by Driscoll’s definitions?
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Posted by prayingheart
February 20, 2008
Toxic Churches
A toxic church exists when “doing” becomes more important than “being.” In a toxic church, service to God is viewed as keeping church systems functioning, God’s blessing is seen as bigger budgets for bigger buildings to accommodate more people, and looking successful replaces love as the key ingredient. Read the rest of this entry »
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Posted by prayingheart
February 16, 2008
Elder
el•der (el’der) n. 1. Elected or appointed governing officer within a church. See 1 Timothy 3: 1-7, Titus 1: 6-9 Under the new bylaws, most of the men that Mars Hill Church refers to as “elders”
Deacons
dea•con (de’ken) n. 1. Attendant or assistant to church leaders. See 1 Timothy 3: 8
(The above definitions are found HERE on the Mars Hill Church website.)
Under the new bylaws, most of the men that Mars Hill Church refers to as “elders” are more accurately referred to as “executive deacons.” With the exception of the Executive 5 (Mark Driscoll, Scott Thomas, Jamie Munson, Tim Belz and Bubba Jennings) no elder has any power of governance. Maybe this isn’t such a big deal…except for the 2000 or so members who signed up for a plurality of elders, in which many men had governing power, and held each other accountable. Of course, it could be said that arrangement didn’t help…after all, these 18+ men voted to give up their power to govern.
In case any folks out there are interested in contacting the Mars Hill leadership and are brave enough to actually do so, their contact information is found HERE .
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Posted by prayingheart
February 15, 2008
Originally posted on Jan 22, 2008 and back by popular request…
In the fall of 2007 the Mars Hill Elders sent out their infamous gazillion-page document that partly responded to many question raised by Mars Hill Members (Prayingheart is trusting that the gazillion pages was an attempt at disclosure and not the classic strategy of dumping so much information at once that few will bother to read it.) On page 24 of the document, when Mark Driscoll responded to questions as to whether this portion of his September 30, 2007 sermon referenced Pastors’ Paul Petry and Bent Meyer:
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Posted by prayingheart
February 13, 2008
In the new Mars Hill Church Bylaws, Mark Driscoll and the elders approved a section on church discipline. It is a magnificent example of the Art of Arbitrariness. PH is sparing the reader all of the boring bylaw detail, and has included only the silliest parts for your reading pleasure. Read the rest of this entry »
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Posted by prayingheart
February 13, 2008
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Posted by prayingheart
February 12, 2008
Pastor Mark Driscoll, we love you. Please never doubt that. By the grace of our Lord, you have the power to right the injustice that has been done. You have the power to turn this into an example of God’s loving kindness, an example of how even the very renowned and much beloved “Reformission Rev” can acknowledge error and set it right.
Please consider how the injustice conducted on your watch can be turned into an example of God’s grace and lovingkindness.
For the Glory of Our Lord.
PH
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Posted by prayingheart
February 12, 2008
Too bad we can’t text Mark the questions raised here! – PH
“In preparation for our church’s annual meeting tomorrow, I’m sharing another quote that has given me something to ponder. This was a comment I read on another blog in response to their church leadership:
“Why do so many of you feel a church leader is entitled to privacy in church dealings. This is not a secret society. Read the rest of this entry »
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Posted by prayingheart
February 12, 2008
Prayingheart received the below factual refinement on the previous post. It has been verified…and the ensuing observations suggest severe partiality in the trial process. PH’s Bible distinctly prohibits this kind of partiality… Read the rest of this entry »
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